Stephen Stowe: I'll call the Stephen Stowe: All the special meeting to order 5 31 pm. Hello, everyone. This is Steve Stowe with Cec. 20. Thank you for joining us. Stephen Stowe: I'm gonna take a quick roll call. Attendance of CC members. Stephen Stowe: Steve Sto here. Stephen Stowe: Chen, Hugh Jen, are you here? Stephen Stowe: Elizabeth chant. Stephen Stowe: Elizabeth, are you here. Stephen Stowe: Pete? Alabama? Stephen Stowe: Marie Berger here Stephen Stowe: I'm in Stephen Stowe: Li Ping Chang Stephen Stowe: that Joyce she Joyce Xie: here Stephen Stowe: Kevin's have. Stephen Stowe: May I roll them. But yeah. Stephen Stowe: obviously the end of a term. Stephen Stowe: let's go over the interpretation instructions for anyone wishing to Stephen Stowe: As for all our meetings, we have Arabic. We have mandarin, we have Spanish interpretive interpretation. Stephen Stowe: we will now introduce those interpreters, and they will give instructions for dialing into the language line. Stephen Stowe: so could our Arabic interpreter please introduce themselves? Stephen Stowe: Arabic interpreter? Are you able to Stephen Stowe: make your announcement? Unmute yourself and make your announcement? Arabic Interpreter - Mina Elias: Yes. Stephen Stowe: go ahead. Stephen Stowe: Can I start now. Arabic Interpreter - Mina Elias: Chukron. Thank you. Stephen Stowe: Thank you. Stephen Stowe: And could our Mandarin interpreters please introduce themselves? Stephen Stowe: Thank you. Stephen Stowe: And could our Spanish interpreter please introduce yourself. Spanish - Yailin Montiel: Esteem for Machin, Serapolica, Perezica, Mantela, Cassidy, the august grasses. Thank you. Stephen Stowe: Thank you. Stephen Stowe: Is it just to go over the agenda for tonight? Stephen Stowe: first, we will have a presentation from the office of district planning Stephen Stowe: describing their proposal for the 3 new schools and Stephen Stowe: District 20 It will be opening in the fall of 2,024. Stephen Stowe: Following that presentation, we will have time for questions and comments from participants. Stephen Stowe: we'll use Stephen Stowe: the same general rules that we use during our regular Cec meetings, but with a little more flexibility. Our goal is to try to get as many comments trying to get all the comments Stephen Stowe: heard tonight that participants want to want to make her so I will. Stephen Stowe: Just use my discretion as far as Stephen Stowe: number of of comments and questions and response time. Stephen Stowe: And so that's really, that's really the agenda for the evening. This is intended to be a public forum for everyone to share share their thoughts on the proposal. If you'd like to sign up to speak. Stephen Stowe: there's a Google form Stephen Stowe: that our Assistant Kevin, will put in the chat Stephen Stowe: and then I'll also look for anyone with a raised hand, and I can call on you that way as well. Stephen Stowe: and just as a reminder. Stephen Stowe: Because we have interpreters with us tonight. Please try to speak slower than usual to allow the interpreters to keep on. Stephen Stowe: So without further ado, I'll introduce office of district planning Julianne, did you want to lead, or Tasman Stephen Stowe: office of district planning? Julian? Can you hear me? Yep, I can hear you. Tesla, I think you're Mike Stephen Stowe: might not be working But in the meantime I will. Is it okay, Steve? I'll share my screen. Shahrukh Tasnim: Can you hear me now. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: Yup, we can hear you Shahrukh Tasnim: right. Shahrukh Tasnim: Are you all able to see my screen? You can see it in. I'm here. I can see you. Shahrukh Tasnim: Thank you everybody for making the time today to at in at our presentation. we wanted to get together with all of you to share some information about the new school buildings that are opening industry 20 in 2425 school year, and also share some draft ideas about rezoning, planning and these new buildings. Shahrukh Tasnim: My name is Charlotte Tusney. I'm the director of district planning, covering Brooklyn South with office of district planning. Shahrukh Tasnim: So for our presentation today. First, I will share like, you know, a brief agenda that what we are going to cover in this presentation we will talk about the new schools that are opening. we will share with you the overview and timeline of how the rezoning process works. Are we Shahrukh Tasnim: throughout this process throughout our community engagement. We heard some questions that keep coming up. And we hear you. We know these are the question in in your mind in the what the community wants to know about. So those we will cover in our frequently asked questions. Section. Shahrukh Tasnim: Then we will go over the draft scenarios for rezoning our P. O. 53, K. 6, 7, 6, and 8, 2, 2. Those are the 2 new school buildings that we will be discussing today. Shahrukh Tasnim: after our presentation, we will have a open discussion where we love to hear at your feedback, and we'll try to answer any questions that you may have. Shahrukh Tasnim: and at the end we'll just share some what we the next steps and we'll share. We'll also share our contact information Shahrukh Tasnim: so it will be begin by sharing this exciting information about this new school buildings that are opening in District 20. We know that these are much needed capacity in the district. there are 4 school buildings that are opening in the 253 are located at 6, 7, 4, 0 Third Avenue. Shahrukh Tasnim: This will be a new elementary school with 307 seats. There's another elementary school opening 8, 6, 7, 6 is opening at 6, 3, 1, 2, Thirteenth Avenue. The total seat count for this school is 547, which includes 97 to 6, 75 seats. Shahrukh Tasnim: There is a middle school capacity that's opening a 322. It's opening at 6 50, Eighty-sixth Street total. See, Count, for this school is 475, 1,272, the 675. Shahrukh Tasnim: There's also a stand alone, 675 school side that's opening as well. It's located at 15, 1, 4 70, s Street. This school building will have 132, the 677 Stephen Stowe: Tasman Evan, can you just pause there for a second, there's a Spanish speaker who just wants to get on the Spanish line. I just want to get Stephen Stowe: get them on the call on the line before you zoom Stephen Stowe: I see. Kevin just put the number in the chat. Stephen Stowe: I probably that's happening. Shahrukh Tasnim: Okay. Stephen Stowe: extra waiting. Shahrukh Tasnim: No problem. Shahrukh Tasnim: So this map we are sharing here. This. This shows where the new capacities will be located in District 20. Shahrukh Tasnim: we have put, like, you know, a small call out that says where each one is and what type of school is going to be. So it gives you a visual presentation of like where exactly the schools are located geographically within the district. Shahrukh Tasnim: I'll give you a few seconds. if you want to take a look at this map before you go to the next slide. Shahrukh Tasnim: Okay. Shahrukh Tasnim: we can move on to the next. So at this part of our presentation, we just want to share with you a a brief summary of how the rezoning process works, and at the timeline that we work with Shahrukh Tasnim: so for a working definition of rezoning it. It's a process of changing existing school zone line and creating new zones, and this process is governed by Chancellor's regulation, a 185. Shahrukh Tasnim: We consider rezoning as an important favor for improving educational access and landing audition for our students. Shahrukh Tasnim: New York City public school right now is exploring elementary school, rezoning for building ao 53 and building a 6, a. K, 6, 7, 6, and also another rezoning for middle school Shahrukh Tasnim: for the building. K. 3, 2, 2. Shahrukh Tasnim: We are still working on the draft. What we are presenting to you today is a draft of like, you know where we are in this? with this proposal. And when, The final proposal is submitted. commonly convenient Education Council put on rezoning proposal for their respective community school district. So for these proposals it will be district with. CC. 20. Shahrukh Tasnim: This this table here gives a visual visual representation of how this process flows. but I just want to say that some of these States overlap with each other like, for example, we deep. We started with the need for rezoning. But the community engagement part the data and analysis and looking at the senior scenario is still happening. As we are moving to Shahrukh Tasnim: step 4. So for community engagement, we have been having conversation with the CC school principals, leadership team communities, elected officials and other stakeholders, and this community conversation will continue to our the rezoning process and the feedback we receive during this engagement in forms our proposal and helps us create the new zone line Shahrukh Tasnim: on our part. We we work with our partner offices to analyze enrollment trails. We look at the demographics. we look at school capacity. We also take into consideration any new residential or housing stock that data that are going to come out. Come, live in the district, meaning that if there is a new like, you know, housing building, there's new apartment building that are going to come up, we we take that into consideration as well. Shahrukh Tasnim: So right now we are Shahrukh Tasnim: at that like at that stage. 4 of the of the of this process, where? Where we are here presenting to you the draft proposal for the June line changes, and we are sharing with with you publicly you and the superintendent Press. Okay, to present here. Shahrukh Tasnim: we will continue to engage with the community. In response to this draft proposal for the final stage of this proposal. of this timeline, a final proposal will be presented and the CC. Will vote within 45 days after a proposal is submitted. And once it's approved this, this gets implemented and the schools open in 2,004 to 5 students. Shahrukh Tasnim: I will hand over to Julia to cover the questions we have been hearing so far in our Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: thanks. Tasman. Hi, everyone. I'm Julianne. I'm also from the district planning team, and I support planning in Brooklyn, south and in District 20. there's a few of us presenting tonight, so we'll each introduce ourselves as we go. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: So as Tasman shared in the timeline. We have been engaging for the past couple of months around the new buildings, opening and potential rezonings, and we wanted to share some of the questions we've been hearing so far. though we are definitely happy to take more questions at the end. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: So you'll see. Here we have 4 big questions that we'll go through the first one we've been hearing a lot is, who will the new buildings serve? Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: So buildings? Ko. 53 and K. 6, 7, 6 are plan to serve new elementary schools, which means they will open with kindergarten in the 2425 school year. pending ce approval of the proposed zone lines. Both schools would operate with zoned admissions methods which means they would give priority to students who reside in a specific geographic area that we call the zone. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: The school may also admit students and residents of District 20 outside of the zone. After all, zone students have been accommodated Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: building K. 302 is plan to serve a new middle school, which means it will open with sixth grade and the 2425 school year, similarly pending Ce. Approval of the proposed zone lines. The school would operate with a zoned admissions program open to residents of the zone. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: and additionally, the school is also being planned to operate a non zone program which would be open to students and residents of District 20. And then the last building, K. 4, 6, 4 is plan to serve a new district 75 middle school program. So tonight we'll be focusing on Ko 53, K. 6, 7, 6, and K, 3, 2, 2. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: The second big question we've been hearing is which students will rezonings impact Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: the top line here is that there is no impact to students who are currently enrolled at a school, or students who will enroll in the upcoming 20 3 24 school year for an elementary school. Rezoning proposed changes would primarily impact incoming pre-k kindergarten or new students to the system. Beginning in the 2425 school year, when the new buildings open Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: for a middle school, rezoning pose changes with primarily impact incoming sixth grade or new students to the system. Also, beginning in school year 2,425, Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: when applying to a school that's impacted by an elementary or middle school, rezoning children entering Pre K kindergarten or sixth grade, who live where a zone is changing, can retain their zone sibling priority if they have a sibling attending that school. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: So what that means is, if there is a student who is currently enrolled in your school, and they have a sibling, and they live in an area that will be impacted by the rezoning, that sibling will still retain their zone, sibling priority Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: in terms of how the rezoning will impact enrollment at nearby schools. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: as we spoke through in the timeline, we've been continuing to engage principles of schools near the new buildings opening Cec members and community members throughout the rezoning planning process. And the feedback we've been collecting has Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: informed the draft phone lines and we'll continue to collect this feedback throughout the summer and into the fall and the rezoning scenarios that we're discussing tonight aim to support schools that have historically experienced overcrowding by decreasing the sizes of their zones. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: I'm going to turn it over to Brian. Bryan Smith: Hello, guys, is my Mike. Okay? Thumbs up Bryan Smith: alright. good evening. I'm Brian Smith and I work at Otp as well on the analytics team before we get into some of these drafted scenarios. First a little bit on how new zone lines are developed. Bryan Smith: So in order to draw new zone lines, we determine the appropriate number of students that should live in each zone. This is the target zone size. We base this on available space and historic demand and trends. Bryan Smith: Then we project future students residing in both existing housing and upcoming residential construction. Bryan Smith: We aim to draw these zone lines in a way we are projected where they, the zones, are projected to contain the target zone size for each school. Bryan Smith: We aim to promote diversity and integration across the schools, and we also consider barriers and travel distance for future and current students Bryan Smith: scenarios. So I guess we're going to start with Ko. 5, 3. But before we do. Bryan Smith: here is a zoomed in map of District 20, with elementary school zone lines and the surrounding area of Ko 5, 3. Bryan Smith: As you can see, the red star with label represents the new capacity at Ko 5, 3. Bryan Smith: It is currently located in the Ps. 102. Yes, so Bryan Smith: so before we go into the first drafted scenario a little bit on interpreting the map that you're about to see. Bryan Smith: So on these maps the colors represent Bryan Smith: existing zones. The thick black lines represent the new proposed zone lines. Bryan Smith: The green represents open space parks, and such Bryan Smith: proposed zone lines go down the middle of the street unless indicated. Bryan Smith: The number of students who live in a zone does not correlate to how large a zone is geographically. Bryan Smith: and every city block is accounted for on the map and in school zones, not just residential areas. Bryan Smith: Alright. Bryan Smith: So this is our first drafted scenario for the new capacity at Ko. 5, 3. Bryan Smith: Please draw your attention to this map. Bryan Smith: The shaded regions represent the existing elementary school zones Bryan Smith: red being Ps. 102. Bryan Smith: Blue, being Ps. Is 30 and yellow. being the current zone for 185, Bryan Smith: as you can see K. 5, 3, as I've iterated before, is located in the current 102 zone. and the zone drawn in this scenario is comprised of what would be current 102 and a little bit of current 30 Bryan Smith: also draw your attention to the border between the 185 and 102 zone. where a portion of 185 Bryan Smith: in this scenario has been given to 102. That's that yellow area above the borderline. Bryan Smith: Okay. Bryan Smith: the next few slides are intended to illustrate potential impacts of this draft scenario. K, 5, 3, Bryan Smith: we'll start with zone size. So in size to reiterate is the number of entry level students. In this case, kindergarteners that live in a geographic area, a zone giving those individuals priority to a school. Bryan Smith: In this scenario we are planning the new school at Ko. 5, 3, to have a zone size of approximately 57 kindergarteners. Bryan Smith: The surrounding schools will see a decrease in zone size as a result of the creation of the new zone. and you can see respectively. blue bars indicate what is current and the green bars indicate what is projected Bryan Smith: under the center. Bryan Smith: next impact, we have Bryan Smith: current and projected utilization utilization being the percentage of a school's capacity that is being used. Bryan Smith: We anticipate that the new school will have a utilization of approximately 93 to 112. Under this drafted plan the surrounding impacted schools 102, 30 and 185 are all currently over utilized, and the addition of Ko 5, 3 will bring them all closer to 100% utilization. Bryan Smith: And I think, the third impact chart talks about total enrollment. Bryan Smith: Under this drafted plan we anticipate that the new school at K. 5, 3 will have a total enrollment Bryan Smith: of approximately 285 to 3 45 students. One is that scale Bryan Smith: respectively, the surrounding schools, total enrollment is projected to decrease these enrollment ranges that you see here above the green bars correspond to the utilization percentage ranges that you saw on the previous chart. Bryan Smith: So I'm going to pass it off to my colleague. Christina Chan is going to talk about the other 2 scenarios K. 6, 7, 6, and K. 3, 2, 2. Thank you. Kristina Chan: Thank you. Kristina Chan: The analytics team at least. I will walk this through 2 scenarios, one for K. 6 and 6, and then K, 3, 2, 2, Kristina Chan: starting with the new elementary sound. Kristina Chan: Thank you. this is a map of the area surrounding K, 6 7 6. The red star on the bottom left indicates where the new building is Kristina Chan: which has the capacity to hold 547 seats, and it's currently located in the 1 76. So Kristina Chan: in the next slide, we have a draft map of what we're proposing. The colored areas are what the current elementary school zones look like. Kristina Chan: and then the dark black lines are what we are proposing. Kristina Chan: So the star, which is where the new building is in that zone, will include part of the 1 76 zone, part of the current, 3, 10 zone, and part of the current 1 12 zone. Kristina Chan: and, as Brian mentioned earlier, we draw his own lines to try to capture a specific number of students to support enrollment and also help address over utilization in the surrounding schools. Kristina Chan: impact on case on size again. So in size is the number of students. In this case, the number of kindergartners who live in a geographical area that will be zone to a specific school at K. 6, 7, 6 We are planning for about 86 kindergarten students to live in the zone that would be zoned to new school Kristina Chan: and the other 3 zones we anticipate. the zone size to. We are planning them to be a bit lower to help address over utilization at those schools and also support enrollments at the new elementary school Kristina Chan: and the next slide impact on school utilization. we are planning for utilization at the new elementary school to be between 86 and 100%. Kristina Chan: we aim to try to get utilization at the other schools to be closer to a hundred percent. And so at 3 10, currently, it is 187% over utilized. And we're planning to bring that down to between 118 and 139%. Kristina Chan: Thank you. And then impact on total enrollment. Kristina Chan: we are planning the total enrollment at the new school to be between 390 and 450 students. Kristina Chan: and we are planning the other schools total enrollment to decrease in order to help dress over utilization and support enrollment at the other schools. and also to know I think T. Hasn't mentioned before. This would be reduced over the course of a few years. Once. Kristina Chan: It is phased in over the course of a few years, starting in the 24 sorry. 2024 to 2025, Kristina Chan: and then moving on to K. 3, 2, 2 Kristina Chan: in the next slide. This is a zoomed in map Kristina Chan: of the surrounding area. around K, 3, 2, 2. The star in the center is where the new building is. it is currently in the 104 zone, and has a capacity for 475 middle school seats. Kristina Chan: Thank you. So this is a draft map of what we are proposing. Kristina Chan: The Yellow star in the center is where the new building is. Kristina Chan: The blue area is the current 104 zone, and the red area at the top is the current 2, one zone. the new zone for K. 302 will take a part of the current, 104 zone. Kristina Chan: and part of the current tool. One zone Kristina Chan: One thing to also note is that the proposed middle school phone lines will be aligned with the current. Kristina Chan: one of 4 elementary school lines which currently they are not. Kristina Chan: Thank you. Kristina Chan: impact on Kristina Chan: its own size. So again, zone size is the number of students who live in the geographical area zoned to the school. so in this proposed board draft. Today we are planning the zone size for the new Middle school to be about 125 students. Kristina Chan: and we are planning for the zone size at 10 for 104 and 201 to be reduced Kristina Chan: to help address over utilization at those schools, and support enrollment at at the new Middle School Kristina Chan: impact on school utilization. We are planning for the utilization rate at the new middle school to be between 85 and 92%. And we are planning to reduce utilization rates at 104 and to our 201, which are currently over utilized to be closer to 100%, Kristina Chan: and then, lastly, in path until environment. Kristina Chan: we anticipate the total a moment at the new middle school to be be between 342 and 372, Kristina Chan: and to reduce total enrollment at 104 into a one also to support over, to help address over utilization and support enrollment at the new Middle school. and again, for the reduction in total enrollment will happen over a course of a few years as it is facing in starting in the 2024 square year. Kristina Chan: And now I will pass it back to Shahrukh Tasnim: thank you, Christina. that is that end of our presentation today. open the questions and the background. I'm going to pass it over to Steve. Stephen Stowe: All right, thanks, Adam. Stephen Stowe: So I have the. There are 2 speakers Stephen Stowe: who right off the bat most in the chat, and I promise them Stephen Stowe: sort of first, and I'll go to them right now and then we'll go to the Google form after that. So Nadine Ahmed. Stephen Stowe: are you there? Stephen Stowe: Go ahead. Nadeem Ahmed: Yes, sir. Good afternoon. Stephen Stowe: Hello. Nadeem Ahmed: yes, sir, my name is Nadine Ahmed. Nadeem Ahmed: and I have a question. My son goes to middle school. He's a graduate from the school, and he's going to the high school. The question is, Nadeem Ahmed: our district 20. They gave us a different schools. But I would like to prefer the school. I want him to go. Nadeem Ahmed: James Madison. Nadeem Ahmed: and he's just his his schools, the districts, I mean. His teacher applied Nadeem Ahmed: a couple of school, but he wants to go to Abraham Lincoln, but I don't want him to go to Abraham Lincoln, but we have as a parents we have to have some, some, some kind of choice to which school is better, because I have all the relatives who graduate from the jails. Medicine. Dr. David Pretto: Hi, I'm sorry to to come in for a second, Mister Mr. Amed. how how are you? My name is David, put on the superintendent, is is your question about your son who's currently enrolled in school going to high school and want to switch schools. Nadeem Ahmed: Correct? Dr. David Pretto: So I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna put a couple of email addresses in the chat and a phone number that you can contact to to answer your questions. This this meeting is not about schools that are currently in existence and students who are attending them. This is about new schools that we're building for next year. So I'm gonna drop 2 email addresses in the chat, and you can. I can get you connected with some folks who can help answer those questions. Okay. Nadeem Ahmed: I really appreciate it. You know why I asked this question. I went to so many, so many different people. They don't listen. So that's why I ask these questions I will commit like. So you, I'm going to put those 2 emails in the chat you can reach out to them, and we will get you connected with some folks to help you in those questions. Okay, no, my pleasure. Stephen Stowe: thanks, thanks, thanks, David. Next one on my list is Allison Parisi Allison. Alison Parisi: Hi, yes, thank you. I'm just curious to know if there are plans to put in any seats for the Asd horizon and the Asd nest program. I have a child in each program and you know I have to. You know they take long bus rides to reach their schools, and I would love to see some seats devoted to these programs in our district. Alison Parisi: So I am curious to know if there are any plans for our middle school to accommodate my children. Alison Parisi: So are you? Are you asking if there will be any? New? Is the program in the the new schools? Yeah, I mean for me personally, it's the middle school, but I mean, I think they should. We definitely. There is a need to have one for the elementary school, you know. There's plenty of children that at my daughter's school, like many beverage families, go there when they're families from Park Slope over there. I mean, there's there's definitely a need for a community school to host these programs. Shahrukh Tasnim: thank you so much for your question. So for programs. like, you know, there's a process by which it's decided which which district is going to get this program, like, you know, in a given year. So District 20 was not identified by the specialized program office as a district that will be receiving a new Sd program for the next year. Shahrukh Tasnim: The the reason is there is limited resource for this type of program, and there is so much demand for them. So what do we does is like they focus on bringing side to the district that don't have these programs or have limited programs. Shahrukh Tasnim: District 20 has existing is the next and horizon programs right now. so even though it's not true, I don't guess. No, it. There's no Asdness program it, or horizon program in District 20, I believe. The closest one Alison Parisi: is Ps. 24, and also Ps. 682 which is really in District 21. But for admissions, person per purposes I know it's open to District 20. It's where a lot that's where my daughter goes but I I don't know of any. I mean I I have a map of all these schools, and Alison Parisi: you know I'm getting worried for middle school what their options are. Dr. David Pretto: So, yeah, thanks. Ms, crazy. I appreciate that just for clarity. in District 20 Ps. 682 is a district 20. School it and it is it. It has an Asd mess program. And then, P. S. 1, 64 is a also a District 20 school that has an Asd horizon program. There are, however, no Asd nest or horizon programs for middle school students currently in District 20, Alison Parisi: and that's my wish for one in District 20 for the middle school. Alison Parisi: and we're saying that there's there's there are no resources for it for the middle school, or is there like? Who would I? Who would I call Dr. David Pretto: so? So? A couple of things? One. We have been in conversation with the department around the absence of Asd nest or horizon programming in the district. Dr. David Pretto: And however, this conversation Dr. David Pretto: doesn't involve the programming of D 75 seats that will be located in either the K. 76 building, or the the K. 322 building, which is the middle school. This the the discussion today is just around the proposals for the the rezoning of the schools, and that would be for the community school seats, not the D 75 seats. Shahrukh Tasnim: And I just want to mention that like, you know, the that we here that they're using for is in this program for meeting school at school level for District 20 we will. We will take your message to a specialized programming. And like, you know, in future, if there is an opportunity, we we will make sure that it's noted that the community wants this program. Stephen Stowe: Great thanks. Stephen Stowe: Kevin, can you go through the Stephen Stowe: the the Google farm for? speakers, please. Yeah, I have it ready. Our first speaker is Martha Munos. CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: Martha Minos, are you there? CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: I'm like, I'm Martha, you know. Stephen Stowe: Let me just look in the Stephen Stowe: see her name and the just by. Stephen Stowe: She's not here. CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: We can go to Elizabeth Elizabeth Edmonds. Elizabeth Edmonds: Hi! I guess I'm here. Thank you so much. Elizabeth Edmonds: Well, I wanted to talk about the nest program at Kale 53. But if that's off the table, I just wanted to say that it does seem. I hope everyone can hear me give it a thumbs up. Elizabeth Edmonds: If there is no nest program in Bay Ridge it would be great to have a nest program in Bay Ridge. Currently a lot of elementary school kids have long bus rides to get to Bensonhurst, And at the beginning of the school year. This can cause some issues. And Elizabeth Edmonds: these are kids who really need routine. So I'm the mother of 3 children. One of my kids has an iep. I also live just a block from Ko 53. And I'm frankly shocked that we're not being included in the rezoning of this Elizabeth Edmonds: We are just around Allison Park, and I want to. If if rezoning is at issue here, I did want to raise one thing, which is. Elizabeth Edmonds: it certainly seems to me that Ps. 102, which is where what we used to be zone for around Alice had Park. Elizabeth Edmonds: Perhaps that would be that line should be moved back up. Because Elizabeth Edmonds: right now, what you have is this being zone for 939, instead of walking literally one block over to this new school. that is on our blog. but that's the secondary issue. The other 3 things I wanted to express were one. It would be great to have a twice exceptional program. Elizabeth Edmonds: I k, 53. Elizabeth Edmonds: I don't know if that's a possibility, or for this meeting, but There are many, many students in our district that are extremely gifted, but also have a particular needs, and those needs are not necessarily getting service by the regular G and T. Curriculum they may need, ICT support. So I was hoping the deal. We would consider that Elizabeth Edmonds: and then I just wanted to make 2 other requests, one, that recess be a priority at the new elementary school. Elizabeth Edmonds: some of the local schools don't have much recess gives me recess. They need to run around. Elizabeth Edmonds: And then the final thing is that street safety we prioritize around that school because. Elizabeth Edmonds: the corner of 60 Eighth Street and Third Avenue is extremely dangerous, and we need to make sure before the school opens at their crossing guards and better traffic lights and signaling there. Elizabeth Edmonds: So thank you very much, and I appreciate your time. Shahrukh Tasnim: Thank you. Elizabeth, for your questions. And like, you know, I'll start with the last part of your questions like, you know, and we, we totally agree with you. The safety of our students, our family, and our staff is our biggest priority. When we look into establishing a new school. So I just tell you quickly how how this part is taken care of as part of building planning. So Shahrukh Tasnim: we we work with opt, and we work with department of transportation to ensure that students can safely travel to and from the school. we also work with like, you know, for this department and also work with the school leadership team to make sure, like, you know, the need of the school is met, and then students can travel safely like, you know, to and from that school. So that is all. Always like, you know. Shahrukh Tasnim: you know, that is always consider and like, you know, when this new school is established, and like, it starts running. like, you know, we work with the teams to make sure that it is a safe environment for transportation for the that. This, this, this school, this has little kids. So it is a priority. Elizabeth Edmonds: May I just say, if it is such a priority, I would like to echo that it really is not appropriate for the students around Alicehead Park to be zone for 939. It is not a safe commute for them by foot, and if we have a new school that is opening on Senator Street in Sixty-eighth Street. They should be zone for that school which, where they can easily walk without crossing a highway. Thank you. Thank you. Stephen Stowe: Thank you for being here. CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: continue. Yep, yep, we have Paula Healy next. Stephen Stowe: All right, Paula. Paullette Healy: can you all hear me? Paullette Healy: Okay, I'm at a hospital, so my signal is very spotty. I'm actually incredibly angry that the district 75 seat conversation is not being part of this, because Paullette Healy: we are part of the community, and you know, to provide contact. There is 357 district 75 students that live in District 20 that are being serviced through their K to 5 programming right now. But but the fact that they're not part of this conversation is incredibly disingenuous. I've been banging with drum for 10 years about how we needed a middle school Paullette Healy: program for our D 75 kids, because there isn't one. It goes to K to 5. And then there's an inclusion program at Telly. That's it. And that's how it's been for the past 10 years. And as of last year's data, we have 740 children classified as having autism living in District 20. Paullette Healy: So I'm sorry. you know. Od. P. But we have been having these conversations with the the Special Education office and the division of specialized programming, and they already have identified that there is a there. There is a need for middle school as well as aims programs Paullette Healy: in District 20. So we're all right. We've been having these conversations for 3 years. So for you to come into this meeting and tell our community that there is no need, and that there, that that hasn't been part of the conversation is disingenuous. Paullette Healy: and I encourage Allison and Elizabeth, and all of Carolyn and all the other parents here who are asking for these programs to join me in these meetings with the Special Education Office because they are happening. Paullette Healy: And I'm really, really upset that this is not part of the conversation when it comes to what these new schools are looking like, because this is an opportunity to right or wrong. Paullette Healy: and you you came into this meeting totally unprepared to talk about it Shahrukh Tasnim: mit Ctl, and follow it. thank you for your question and I'm sorry that you are feeling that, you know it is not being covered. But, like, you know, I just want to mention again that, like, you know, that District 75 is a part of this conversation, because the elementary school that we are opening Ts 676. It's includes 1,972, Shahrukh Tasnim: the middle school that we are opening a 3, 2, 2, 8 to 72 district, 75 seats, and we are opening a stand alone. Needles. D. 75 middle school, there is not, like, you know, stand alone all the seats that all 132 seats here for a 6 4, 6, 4, Shahrukh Tasnim: located at 15 1477 Street. It's all district 5 to 75 seats. So we we hear you that like, you know, there's more need. But these plans the the proposals that we are presenting today, it is bringing in like, you know, Shahrukh Tasnim: these 2 75 seats into the district. Paullette Healy: But if there's no program, director or no principal attached to these seats, they're just seats. There's there's like, How are we Paullette Healy: connecting them to to an already established program. Or is this a new program? A new Dbn altogether like that should be part of this conversation, not the fact that yes, we have a school that's designated for D 75. Where's the programming? Where, you know? Like, where? How are we making sure that kids that are in fifth grade right now, in District 75. Know who is being associated? Who is running these programs? Paullette Healy: Why don't we have this information already? Shahrukh Tasnim: So like, you know when you are asking about the programming at this stage, like, you know, I know that this is a very important part of the process, but they this will come in like, you know, when we closer to opening those schools that, like, you know that if you if you're thinking about a principle, if you're thinking about like, you know, Staffing, those are very valid questions, but those are coming forward as we move. That that will be coming out as we move forward in this process and at this part Shahrukh Tasnim: those schools are like no, in some cases they are like that. They're at the very primary stage of being built Shahrukh Tasnim: so like, you know, the questions you will have are very valid. But we will have those information as we move forward in this process. Max Familian: Yeah, if I could just chime in about a couple of additional things. Paula, thank you for raising These concerns, you know. I think Max Familian: to to your point. you know, we're also not talking about some of those things for the district 20 schools. We're not talking about principles of these schools. We're not talking about the specific programs. And that's that's mostly because today's conversation is really just about the the mechanism of rezoning which is a a unique process. So we wanted to share some of the back, you know, background information on the buildings. Max Familian: but the the purpose of tonight's conversation is primarily around the rezoning proposal so that we get something out and continue to collect feedback. This part of the process gets decided much earlier on, or aims to get much decided much earlier on in the fall. But I also think you're raising a really important point, and I think we need to have in our in our subsequent conversations that are predominantly led by the office of school design around Max Familian: the the focuses of the new new elementary Middle School District 20 schools. I think it's a I think we definitely want to bring District 75 into those conversations so that they can talk about the Dbms that would be housed in these buildings, but to to and and and the programs that would be housing these Billings. We're just. I think it's a little early for that. But I think we should start those conversations soon. and I just 1 point about Asd. I just want to clarify our office does not sort of decide or know Max Familian: where in the city or which communities have a need for Asd programming. that is something that the specialized programming office manages. And, Paul, I think you were. Perhaps I I wasn't able to attend this call, but I I believe there to your point. There's been years of conversations, and there was recently a call with that team And so our role in this in that process is they, they will tell us. Max Familian: You know they have limited funding. They will tell us what are the highest priority areas for new Sd. Me, new Sd Asd programs here every year, and then we help to identify space. so we're definitely gonna follow up with them and make sure to reiterate the specific requests around beverage which I think they have have heard and are aware of Max Familian: And then also on the middle school side. I know they there. There is typically a strong desire to have middle to have articulation sites as students age up. So we will definitely follow up on on that as well. Paullette Healy: I appreciate that, Max, but you know, just since you know. And I know you guys have worked really really well with us for the past, you know, 10 years. But it's not an either, or right like when we're talking about zoning, we also have to talk about how we're addressing our district 75 families because we've already made it incredibly clear that the deficits are real in this district, and these are students that live here that are constantly being bused out of their district for them for over 15 years at this point, and Paullette Healy: I I appreciate your words, and I appreciate you, you know, like saying that you are prioritizing. And of course, you know I'm going to amplify that through my connections with the Special Education Office and what Michelle Nesler as well. But you know, just going forward when we are having these engagement sessions about zoning. It has to be inclusive of District 75. We can't just say, well, this is the first part, and we'll get to District 75 later. No, it has to be all in the same Paullette Healy: inclusive approach, because they are part of our community. We can't continue segregating them out just because their needs are slightly higher than your average general education. Student. Stephen Stowe: Okay. Stephen Stowe: thanks, Kevin. Who's our next speaker. CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: Peter Hyde? CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: Peter? All right, let me check this in. CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: He's not here, so we'll move on to I I'm here, are you on? I'm sorry about this. Sonya Hyde: mine's a a fairly quick question given that we and thank you for the previous parents who have questions. with the addition of a new middle school. Is that changing the middle school zoning as well in particular for Mckinley Middle School. Yes. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: So the middle school rezoning. And I can actually go back to that. That's helpful. it is impacting in this draft. Just Ps. 104 and Ps. 201, it's not include Ps. 259 in this initial draft. Sonya Hyde: Thank you. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: And I think. Steve, I'm not sure if we just want to check if the everything's okay with the Spanish interpreter. I saw her hand was up and just want to make sure. Okay, all good Stephen Stowe: bash interpreters, everything. okay. Spanish - Yailin Montiel: I'm sure I just have means. Martha Lima was in the Spanish line, and she wanted to make a comment. She was the first person you mentioned from the Google form. I'm not sure if she's still there she was waiting. May I please have a second to. She is still there, and may she have the opportunity to her? Make her comment Spanish - Yailin Montiel: sure. 1 s, please. Spanish - Yailin Montiel: Miss Martha Lem, I send the line. So I'm gonna collect the comment, if you can allow, please. Few minutes for that. Stephen Stowe: Yes. Spanish - Yailin Montiel: okay, Miss Martha, just have a quick question. She's just wondering if her this, the middle school of her son, is gonna provide summer school and her. His school is on Spanish - Yailin Montiel: their avenue on 59 street. and she's just wondering if he will continue on the same school. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: So the rezoning will not impact any current students or any students who will be enrolled in the upcoming school year. This would be any students who are new to the system in the 2425 school year when the new buildings open. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: so for middle school it would be any new sixth graders or new students entirely to the system. In 2,425 Shahrukh Tasnim: I I also want to mention that you know this rezoning proposal do not affect any students who are coming coming. In this September. The students were coming in 2324 school year. It doesn't affect them. it's going to be any students incoming kindergartener or incoming sixth grade student for K, 3, 2, 2 beginning at 2425 school. Stephen Stowe: I just want to make sure. Yes, you mean, does that answer the question for for the parent? Shahrukh Tasnim: I think she's on the phone with her. Stephen Stowe: Yeah. Stephen Stowe: we'll wait just a moment for the the parent to ask a follow up. Shahrukh Tasnim: Eileen. I have a additional information for the parent. Shahrukh Tasnim: sure go ahead. So so we are just wondering that you know if she is just asking about like this summer where the her child is going. So for that one like, you know. Dr. David Pretto: I think she needs to connect with her parent coordinator at the school or ask somebody at school, or maybe David. Then yeah, I know if if the child goes to school on Third Avenue and 59 Street and is in middle school. The child most likely goes to Ms. 9, 36. Just want to confirm that. That's where this Dr. David Pretto: student goes to school. Dr. David Pretto: because, if so, this year's Dr. David Pretto: Ms. 936 students are affiliated with Dr. David Pretto: 220 Pershing Junior High School. Dr. David Pretto: So any students who go to Ms. 936, who are going to summer school this summer will attend summer school at Dr. David Pretto: Junior High School 220. Shahrukh Tasnim: Thank you, David. Spanish - Yailin Montiel: Okay, thank you. Stephen Stowe: Thank you. Stephen Stowe: Kevin. Who's the next speaker from the from the Google phone. CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: We have Nadim Ahmed. I'm not sure if he's going to speak again, or. CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: Yeah, are there other? We? We can keep him. But I'd like to give everyone a there's a chance to. Is is he the last one like a little far. Stephen Stowe: Okay? Well, we'll we'll come back to Mr. Ahmed. Stephen Stowe: Who's the one after at the Jan and Gabrie? Okay. CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: I'm Gary. Jen Gaboury: if you want to yourself. Jen Gaboury: So I just wanted to go back and I want to echo what Pauline said what, Paul? It said. I wanted to make sure that we are not Jen Gaboury: leaving D 75 seats, kind of to the sideline, and that we are taking those seats and needs into account, as we are making kind of zoning and the seat, and need decisions, and hope that we can be hope that we could be having those conversations sooner rather than later in this process. And just trying to have the most kind of inclusive access to the new Middle school seats. and I, Jen Gaboury: you know. I certainly hope that these do not end up being kind of like highly screened schools. especially given the overwhelming need for additional seeds for lowering our class size. Jen Gaboury: within The district, and especially given kind of the way in which the changes unfolded around the the sets at Park School. I really hope that this could be a really inclusive and broad conversation that lots of people have access to. and I just really want a second. Everything that Paul had said. Thanks very much. Shahrukh Tasnim: Thank you. Stephen Stowe: Edin Nadine. Ahmad, did you have a a follow up question. Nadeem Ahmed: no, sir, we I don't have any any other questions. I'm just worried about that question. I Stephen Stowe: got it. Thanks. Stephen Stowe: and I see in the chat. Stephen Stowe: question in the chat will current students have the option to switch Stephen Stowe: to new zone schools? Stephen Stowe: can one of can you guys feel that one. Shahrukh Tasnim: you mean? like, you know, if somebody is attending a current school, if they can attend this new school? Stephen Stowe: That's the I just read the question, yeah, that's that's the exact question I just read. Will current students have the option to switch to new zone schools. Shahrukh Tasnim: So so this this rezoning doesn't affect in existing students. So so the students who are whichever school they are currently zone to, that is their school, they will be going to. But I think students like me, if I'm wrong the students can apply to any school they they want, but they they will be zoned to their current school. Stephen Stowe: So the answer would be, yes, right? I think. Stephen Stowe: Like, if you're a if you're a student, not in the new zone. But can you reply to that school. Shahrukh Tasnim: I I think so, Max, do you want to add anything to it? Max Familian: Yeah, I mean, I think there's there's sort of it could be read in a couple of different ways. I read that question as being Max Familian: if the student is already enrolled in this for 20 school, and their zone gets changed. Max Familian: Can they go to Max Familian: the school? They're they're quote unquote, newly on school. Max Familian: and and say, I'm correct me if I'm wrong. But I believe that rezoning phase in. Max Familian: So if a student is in third grade and their address Max Familian: gets a new zone, I don't. I don't believe they can just then go over to Max Familian: go over to their new, their, the the the school that their address is now zone to Max Familian: and and claim zone priority. Sam, can you confirm the phasing? And if you're not sure we can, we can clarify with admissions. But I I think Max Familian: I think that process would Max Familian: fall into the same process. that it would for any student who wants to transfer during their elementary school time. Max Familian: If the question is about Max Familian: right about a student who lives in a zone. Who's who's in, let's say, 3 or 4 years old, and their own changes? Yes, they would. I mean at that point to Tasman's Point. You can apply anywhere Sam Streed: you can. We can apply anywhere. But they would have zone zone priority to that new school, so I have any sense of my, the the detail on the first question, yeah, the the grades for the new school will phase in. So the first year 2,425 will be, you know, and all like the first year of kindergarten, and then the next year will be K to one, and then K to 2. That's typically how we Sam Streed: open new schools. And the phase in for the rezoning will be the same way. So if a student is currently and they're a great user. For example. Sam Streed: that student wouldn't be able to transfer in the first year into the new school because there wouldn't be a there wouldn't be a third grade for them to transfer into, for example. Sam Streed: if the question is more about, if you live outside of the zone, and you want to consider transferring into the the new zone? Let's say Sam Streed: you're interested in a new school that would be handled like any other transfer between any other schools? Sam Streed: the, you know, zone students would have the priority. you know. if that's the case. Stephen Stowe: got it. Thank you Stephen Stowe: and Stephen Stowe: and Stephen Stowe: let's go ahead to 2 hands in the chat. Carolyn. Caroline. Cha, I think your hand was up first. Carolyn Cho: Hi, everybody! Thank you so much for this opportunity. I just wanted to take this rare opportunity to really echo what Alison Priesty, Elizabeth Edmonds, and Paul at Healy were saying about the incredible importance of bringing more programming for neuro-direction, neuro-diverance students. Carolyn Cho: students with special needs, students with disabilities more Asd nest programs, horizon aim for the families that need them to communities like Bay Ridge. we are currently in a nest program, and I commute a little bit over an hour each way by subway to get my son to this program. So that's actually, I usually spend about 4 and a half hours on the subway every day. And it's a privilege that I have the ability to do that. Many families don't Carolyn Cho: And it basically has completely taken over my life. I do nothing but ride the subway back and forth. And I want to point out that busing is not accessible or appropriate for all students. Students with sensory challenges who struggle with noise, with crowds. Carolyn Cho: Busing is not always the accessible option for them. So I just really want to echo the importance of bringing these types of programs to every community. because every neighborhood, every community. Every family deserves access to these programs, no matter where they live. And a few other parents wrote this in the chat as well. I couldn't agree more when you have to commute such a long distance in order to access an appropriate mit Ctl. And placement or program for your child, it really deprives your child of the options to develop further relationships and friendships in the community. One. Carolyn Cho: Because you're not having those impromptu opportunities to bump into familiar faces at the playground at the grocery store at the local library. When we went to a preschool in our community, I noticed we were so much more able to develop relationships with local families, which was an enormous Carolyn Cho: benefit to my child's relationship building skills, social skills, communication skills which fed into greater academic success. Carolyn Cho: So by making parents commute far away to access these programs, we're also it's also creating a situation where it's so hard for them to build relationships with families in the community and friendships, which is something that impacts the child's Carolyn Cho: communication, social skills which are all things that also impact academic success in school. So I just wanted to share that perspective. Thank you so much. Shahrukh Tasnim: Thank you. Thank you so much for sharing that. And like, you know, we are taking notes, and we will definitely reach out to specialist program office about the and hearing from you today. And I just want also want to mention, like, you know, when these 2 75 loops into Shahrukh Tasnim: new site options for for establishing new side they took. they do take into consideration that transportation like, you know that they do try to reduce transportation time for that students. because, like you said, like longer transportation time long. This, like, you know, giving far, far away from other schools. It's not the best scenario Shahrukh Tasnim: so they do take it to. take it into consideration, and time again on comments. Stephen Stowe: So let me go to the chat for more question. Stephen Stowe: Can you describe the reasoning for the zoning around Alice Head Park, not to K. 53. participate, is interested in understanding the reasoning. Shahrukh Tasnim: I'm sorry which area Stephen Stowe: the area around all Ted Park that is currently on to 939. Why not zone that to 53. Shahrukh Tasnim: So that that area around there? I think the the that the 9 39 is still facing in. Shahrukh Tasnim: And when when we looked into creating zone like, you know, there, there's many things that that are Shahrukh Tasnim: taken into consideration like we look into the need of in the neighborhood. We also look into how over utilized the district the schools are in that neighborhood, and Po 53 then, you know, it has such small capacity. we looked into different scenarios and options. And the the proposal the scenario presented today. Shahrukh Tasnim: That seems like the that that seems like the option that where we can make most impact within the limitations of planning. Elizabeth Edmonds: if it would be possible to just say brief word about that. What I see in your rezoning is you're adding students to Ps. 102. So what I don't understand is, yes, one or 2 has historically been overcrowded. So if you're adding students from Ps. 185 to 102. Why would you not rezone the students who can walk to Ps. 102 around Alice Head Park Elizabeth Edmonds: back to 102. If they can't go to 53, it doesn't make sense for students to literally have to cross where cars are turning onto the Belt Parkway. to walk up to 9 39, and I live on one of the blocks. That is zone for 9 39. That is literally one block from 53. My son goes to one or 2 because he has sibling preference. But in any event, the issue is Elizabeth Edmonds: it Elizabeth Edmonds: people on our block have to drive their their students to school if they go to 9 39 because it is not safe for them to get there. And we have a new school being built. I'm very hopeful. You guys will take into consideration the idea of either averted to the old zoning for one or 2, or putting the area around Alice had parked to 53, and if street safety is a consideration. Elizabeth Edmonds: one of the excellent ways of doing this would be 53. The students can walk straight down Senator Street to Alice had part for recreation. So it really doesn't make sense to have students walking down Senator Street Elizabeth Edmonds: towards Alice's head. Part. If they are not. they actually like the students who live there can't go to that school. It doesn't make sense. So I don't see the why this is being done. And I I just want to like raise the simplest concerns because it really doesn't make sense for the neighborhood community. Thank you. Shahrukh Tasnim: Thank you. Bryan Smith: Just to touch on one thing that was stated about Bryan Smith: adding to 102, though we have added to 102 from 185. We've also taken away from 102. So the net change is still reducing 102. Elizabeth Edmonds: But could you, if you get to add to what like, if you could, you move it the other way right, and make it so that the students who live right near 102, can go to one or 2 and walk there, because walking to school is so important for students to be able to develop and dependence for their mental health reduce anxiety, all kinds of things. They need that independence. And it's very important for working families as well. Thank you. Stephen Stowe: Yeah, I think that's really good feedback, and these proposals are not final. I as him you would agree. Correct. Shahrukh Tasnim: So this is yes. What we said is like a if this is a draft proposal, and we are here to collect feedback. And this will be become a part of our conversation. And we can. Shahrukh Tasnim: He can look at that data. And we can look at the data we can. like, you know, when that date and the feedback we are collecting, we can. We can take a look again. Shahrukh Tasnim: But, like, you know, I just want to say that like in a week here what you're saying. But like, you know, Steve, as you know, that this, this, this is a involved process where a lot of things are taking into consideration. And like, you know, we we we we we want this to check. And then Stephen Stowe: sorry. Can you just say the last part again, Padman, you said, we want. Shahrukh Tasnim: No, I'm saying, like, you know, that this is why we are here for to collect feedback, to hear from the community what they feel about this proposal is this draft plan? Stephen Stowe: So you know, these, these all are valuable to us, and I'll just just reiterate, I I hope this is, this is a draft, and it's only a draft. And that's how we should be thinking about it. Dr. David Pretto: Yeah, and absolutely. And I and I just want to chime in here to just kind of reiterate the point. Because, Elizabeth, I hear you a hundred percent on the on the proximity and the sense making. You know I I do want to reiterate the points. one. About what Brian said around. Dr. David Pretto: addressing the the over capacity of the buildings, 102 and 185 and 30 Dr. David Pretto: The the original impetus of the construction of new sites, including this one, was, to, you know, alleviate overcrowding and to support schools moving closer to Dr. David Pretto: now complying with the class size law and 102185, and psi is 30 are all schools that are are over capacity. Dr. David Pretto: whereas Ps. 939 is not so when Dr. David Pretto: the Dr. David Pretto: scenarios were drawn up to determine the the zoning lines. It was with a levy, alleviating, overcrowding in mind. So we really appreciate the feedback. and I understand the Dr. David Pretto: the the. I understand your point about being really close to the school and trying to make sense of it. So it but I I wanted to be able to just kind of reiterate that point, because when drawing up the scenarios that is the trying to make sure that the the plan meets the the the need of alleviating overcrowding. And some of our overcrowded schools. Elizabeth Edmonds: Thank you, Dr. Pedo. I appreciate it Stephen Stowe: just looking in the chat. Kevin. Is anyone else signed up on the Google form. CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: No, there's no. CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: I'm just looking in the chat. Stephen Stowe: That thing a question about staffing for the middle school. alright. Stephen Stowe: who wants to handle that one. I'm interested to know about the staffing to the middle school at in 2425. Dr. David Pretto: So there! There will be more conversations later on, in early 2,024, there is a process that governs staffing that happens after the identification of the leader of the new school. And Dr. David Pretto: that's something that happens later on in the process. Stephen Stowe: And then to Clara, another question to clarify the new middle school is only open to sixth grade, not seventh and 8. Stephen Stowe: I can just answer that one that the first year will be sixth grade right? And then they say, then Stephen Stowe: seventh grade, the the they move on to seventh grade, and in another class, and then I is in a third class, and the third year. so the first year yes, it will just be fixed per hit, and then Stephen Stowe: subsequent years to stay with them. Stephen Stowe: Oh, good question about the sibling. How about siblings? If the zone changes. Stephen Stowe: my older daughter is going to first grade and she can stay at her current school. My question is, her Sibling will go to a Pre. K. In the next 2 years Stephen Stowe: had my younger daughter go to the same school with my older daughter. Shahrukh Tasnim: So which create our our child will be Stephen Stowe: child is currently going into first grade. Stephen Stowe: and the younger one is starting pre K. In the next 2 years presumably not in the DOE school. Right now Stephen Stowe: will that child be able to to go to the same zone school as the older sibling did Shahrukh Tasnim: so the the general rule about sibling priority is, If there is a child in a like, you know, in a elementary school within grade, 2 Shahrukh Tasnim: kindergarten to fourth grade. Shahrukh Tasnim: If they have a young younger sibling, they can join the same school where their their brother or sister is currently attending. Shahrukh Tasnim: If if the child is in a in a graduating class, like, you know, like if you if the child is in fifth grade, then they they won't have that saving priority, but based on what the parents shared. if it seems like that, they will be able to reaching. Shahrukh Tasnim: They're they're they should be able to go to the same suite. Stephen Stowe: even if the sibling is is not entered pre-k yet. Shahrukh Tasnim: So with which year the title of this evening is going to enter prepaid. because if the child is in it, the older sibling is in first grade. Right? They have 5, 6 s grade, probably 2 more years Stephen Stowe: right. I don't right, but if the child is in first grade, and the younger one is not not even in Pre. K. Yet. Stephen Stowe: But we don't know the age of that child. Right? That's actually a to go to pre-. But as long as the older one is still on the school when they enter Stephen Stowe: okay? And actually, I just see, Max answered that. And that confirms what you're saying. Stephen Stowe: another question. Can they show the proposed zoning map? can you guys pull up. Stephen Stowe: I guess we have 3 proposed zoning maps. So I'm not sure. Yeah, Michelle Magnus, if you can just specify. Oh, she she later on asks for the middle school one. Can you pull up the middle schools on map again Elizabeth Edmonds: before before you pull up the middle school one? Could I just say, I just want to point out that 939 is not even on the map for 53. It is so far from where the students live that it is literally not on the map. So I just while you have the elementary school map up, can I just point that out if you live near Ellison Park, you have to walk somewhere that is not even on this map to go to elementary school. Thank you. Bye. Stephen Stowe: Elizabeth, I I appreciate your your points that very well taken, if you don't mind just waiting until we call on you, please. we. We appreciate that that there will be time to follow up anything. Stephen Stowe: Thank you. Stephen Stowe: So I don't know if Michelle in the in the chat. She just wanted to see the his own map, Michelle, if you have any questions or comments. Stephen Stowe: about the middle schools on that Stephen Stowe: And then Stephen Stowe: Elizabeth had another question, when will the Pre K. Phase in at K. 53. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: We're not planning for Ko 53 to have Pre K. At this time. just based on the space available in the building. Stephen Stowe: Okay. Stephen Stowe: for sixth grade. Does everyone have a school bus for the first year in middle school? Shahrukh Tasnim: Are they asking about like, you know, the new little school that will be opening a 3, 2, 2, Stephen Stowe: it seems more like a general question. Shahrukh Tasnim: so for K, 3 to 2 the busing will be done in in accordance with like, you know the transportation guidelines that open it follows. Shahrukh Tasnim: be the same for all schools. the standard transportation dive, then Stephen Stowe: do you think they'll be just looking at the zone? Do you think? it based on the Zone sort of that East West configuration? Do you think there would be a a bus route through there. Shahrukh Tasnim: I don't have an answer to that, Steve. like we can, we can look into it. Stephen Stowe: Yeah. Stephen Stowe: Question about middle school applications. Our middle school application, scheduled for October 2,023, will zone to be finalized by the time applications start. Stephen Stowe: I mean, I can answer that question, or in theory, yes, our the goal for the Cdc is to vote on it Stephen Stowe: in the fall of 2,023 Stephen Stowe: and I believe that's that's in accordance with the schedule, right? Julian and testim. But get it voted on, maybe in September, would you say. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: yep, our goal is to have a formal proposal and the vote so that families can take that into account during the next admission cycle for both elementary and middle school. Stephen Stowe: Is it possible to say that September or October Stephen Stowe: type of event or November? Tasman, you're muted Shahrukh Tasnim: so I'm saying that we will let you know as soon as we can give you like a 20 month. Shahrukh Tasnim: like, you know, we are aiming for fall. Shahrukh Tasnim: we. We don't have like an exact date. Yet. Stephen Stowe: Okay. Stephen Stowe: Other question. Stephen Stowe: So follow up on the Pre. K. At at 53. Wasn't there a pre-k plan for K. 53. And wasn't that part of the approval process with TV 10? Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: We've working with in this initial plan to look at what the ideal section count would be for the building, and so just based on the available rooms and the space and in order to accommodate as many K to 5 sections as possible. that was how we landed on not having planning for Pre K. At this time. Julianne Bozzo, District Planning: so I'm not aware of there being any initial plan for there to be Pre. K. But the the thinking behind it was that we wanted to be able to maximize enough sections per grade in K to 5 to really support, with alleviating some of the utilization at the nearby schools. Stephen Stowe: I see Michelle has a question, Michelle, do you want to unmute and ask your question. Michelle Magnus: Hello, can you hear me? Okay. So if I'm reading this correctly. Michelle Magnus: in, there was new draft, for middle school is moving all the previous to a one Michelle Magnus: one of. Michelle Magnus: And then is that right? What? Michelle Magnus: And then, if you're ready in 1 85 per day, you're not Michelle Magnus: committed to the new buildings or the new zone. Correct. Shahrukh Tasnim: I'm sorry, can you? Michelle Magnus: I'm looking at the map, and then I'm looking in Bay Ridge right now where? Michelle Magnus: I'm zone for 185, but it looks like all of that area that was owned for 185. Most of it got. And it's is that the new? No, for middle school? I'm sorry for middle school. Michelle Magnus: Yeah. It looks like a a lot of the previous to one is now, zone for Michelle Magnus: K. 9, 8, 9. Is that correct? Michelle Magnus: Or 2? Okay, 104, and it Shahrukh Tasnim: no like, no. Shahrukh Tasnim: But like what I understand is you're looking at what is then like, where you are seeing Shahrukh Tasnim: 9, 8, 9. Shahrukh Tasnim: So that's that whole area where you see these 2 different color, you see, like, you know, some part of this area is red, and some part of these areas do. Shahrukh Tasnim: That is the zone for the new middle school. K, 3, 2, 2. Shahrukh Tasnim: Oh, okay. So all of that. You see the small star in one of Michelle Magnus: right. So all of that on the left side for is zone for the new middle school. Shahrukh Tasnim: Yes, that's that. Yeah, that did. And blue shaded area. Yeah, okay? Michelle Magnus: And but if you're currently in this in us elementary school. Now you're you're kind of grandfathered in. Michelle Magnus: So you may be your Zone middle school that you currently are zone, for Shahrukh Tasnim: in in in this map. We haven't changed, like, you know, the elementary school and middle school zone are the same. Haven't like, you know. It's matches, the same zone zone line for middle school and elementary school. Shahrukh Tasnim: and if so, if you're a current 104 student, you would retain your continuing student priority to stay there for middle school. If you attend there currently for elementary Michelle Magnus: right? So we're currently 185. But we're zone for 201. Michelle Magnus: According to this map Michelle Magnus: we would be zone for the new Middle school. However, are we grandfathered in if we're ready in 185 and zone for 2 or one. Shahrukh Tasnim: So so you have a current child, you you have a child who is, who is adding, one of 4. Dr. David Pretto: She is. She is a child at 1 85. And but, Michelle, I think your question is, I'm a parent at 1 85 in fourth grade is my, am I going to have a tool one zone next year when I go to middle school, or is my child going to be zoned for 3 22? That's the question right? Michelle Magnus: Right? And I have an incoming kindergartener and a kindergartner. So I'm just trying to clarify. Are we all still zoned for 201, Max Familian: if you live in the if you live in the area that is being. If you live in one of those blocks. I I we don't have an overlay of the 185 zone, but most of the 185 zone, if not all of it. Max Familian: is being rezoned to the new Middle school. So. Max Familian: assuming your child is not, didn't just graduate. If your child is in Max Familian: K through 4, you you you have a new zone middle school under this plan, and the New Zone Middle School will be K. 322, Max Familian: and that's the the middle School middle school that's opening for the 2425 school year, and that middle school is geographically located closer to the 185 zone than 201. Currently us Max Familian: also just worth noting that both the new school, and 201 and 104 have out of zone program. So you can still apply to the to those schools and any of the at his own programs in District 20, but your new zone school would become Max Familian: the school that opens in the 320 new 322 building. Does that? Is that helpful? Michelle Magnus: No, because I've been told also, I in a previously meeting, that you're you're kind of grandfathered in Michelle Magnus: with whatever zone school you've been into. Kindergarten. Max Familian: that that's the kit. No, you have to be attending. So for elementary school like. So, for example, I don't know what grade your older child is in, but Max Familian: if your older child is still at the elementary school, when your younger child goes to kindergarten. Max Familian: you would be grandfather. And that's what people mean when they say Grandfather den is when Max Familian: you retain your sibling priority. So we we do that so that families don't have. You know, siblings that because of a rezoning have to attend different schools. Max Familian: But if you're not yet in, if you're not yet in the middle school. If you're in an elementary school, and your address at middle school is rezoned. You have. You are now zone to the different, to a new middle school. Michelle Magnus: Okay? So next year my daughter's in fifth grade, we apply in December to a middle school. Michelle Magnus: the new Middle school, Mms. Bakery to do whatever it's called. It's not open yet where we are flying, for what zone are we in? Max Familian: So that's what we will be. That school, the goal of our rezoning, I mean, actually irrespective of our rezoning. Max Familian: that that school will be on the middle school application process as a new school, and we will aim to have a rezoning voted on in in line with Michelle Magnus: that middle school admissions process. So families know what their own school is. When she she entered kindergarten we were zoned for 1 85 and 12. She's not grandfathered into the middle school. Max Familian: Correct? Michelle Magnus: Oh, that's cool. Michelle Magnus: you know. Michelle Magnus: Thank you. You know. Shahrukh Tasnim: I'm sorry I had. I I just wanted to share, like, you know, if you share with us your address, we can take a closer look to that. We see if there's anything else that we can any other information that we can share that can be helpful. Shahrukh Tasnim: maybe not in the meeting. But, Michelle, you can certainly follow up if you want, if you want to get the precise yeah, no, no. But we can help you out with specifics, for sure. You don't think about our email address shortly. we can email it to us. Stephen Stowe: I'm just looking in the chat any other. Stephen Stowe: Here's a question. Another question in the chat Stephen Stowe: with the proposed zone of K. 302. Taking some of the current to a one zone. is there an opportunity to rezone the south side fast beach area of 2 or one as well, the zoning of 201 stretches from Bay Ridge to Bath Beach. Stephen Stowe: It doesn't serve the closest entire 1, 1, 2, 2, 8 zip area. Shahrukh Tasnim: We we can like Shahrukh Tasnim: as as I mentioned before, the the plans we are proposing here is based on, like, you know, when we look at the nearby schools and look at that capacity current in demographic. So there's a lot of contributors to to the plans that we have. But we are taking note of your feedback, and we take a look at it. Shahrukh Tasnim: Thank you. Stephen Stowe: I'll remember. I've I've noticed that that particular sort of strip that Stephen Stowe: really looks pretty out of place there for 201 down to Bath Beach. Stephen Stowe: okay, Kevin. Any more questions from the Google form? CEC20 - Kevin Vizhnay AA: No, I don't win the questions Stephen Stowe: and interpreters. Are there any questions on the language lines? Stephen Stowe: Any Arabic questions on the Arabic line, or Spanish line, or mandarin line. Stephen Stowe: There are no questions in the Spanish line at this moment. Mandarin Interpreter - Eddie Lau: Yeah, no question. So I imagine I think you Shahrukh Tasnim: I see one more question from Elizabeth when she is asked where she is asking, when this Stephen Stowe: bye. Stephen Stowe: that is Shahrukh Tasnim: no, I'm we. We will cover it here, like, you know, Elizabeth has a question regarding like, you know, when this will be finalized. because a minute which will be covered, you know, next sip section and thanks for the question, because it is part of like the next step in this process. Shahrukh Tasnim: So Julian, if you to go to the next slide. Shahrukh Tasnim: So it was. It was great to hear from all of you about this draft proposal that you submitted. All your feedbacks. these are very valuable to us, and this is where we we came here to meet you all because we wanted to hear from you. Shahrukh Tasnim: like, you know what you think about it? What else could have be done to make it better? what you think is is the need in the community. So thank you so much for your feedback. we will continue to have this additional community engagement conversation, and we'll provide further opportunities for feedback Shahrukh Tasnim: which doesn't which is not limited to. just these conversations we'll have. we'll have like more community engagement where we'd want to do discussion with the CC 20 principal. So T. And the community members Shahrukh Tasnim: we'll have additional presentation from Odp at an upcoming CC meeting, or we could add in another another committee forum to present information about this Directory zone name. Shahrukh Tasnim: And it is a bit to your point we are, anticipating to present a formal rezoning proposal for the CC. 20 in fall and it will be ported in fall for 20 4, 25. Shahrukh Tasnim: We want to share. We have shared our contact information in the Shahrukh Tasnim: I'm sorry. somebody. They had a question. Shahrukh Tasnim: Okay. So we shared our email address in the chat. But here it is again our please feel free to reach out to us with any questions or concerns. If you feel you had a question here today that didn't get as if you please, let us know, and we'll try our best to get back to you with an answer. And thank you again for all your time today, and we really appreciate it, and you will will be touched to hear from us again. Shahrukh Tasnim: Thank you. and have a good night. Stephen Stowe: and thank you everyone for attending interpreters. Stephen Stowe: You are dismissed. Stephen Stowe: Thank you for your service. Stephen Stowe: and fellow PC. Members. Thanks for being here. Stephen Stowe: for that! Everyone Cory Lum: who now, when is the next meeting? On this Kevin Zhao: Wednesday. Stephen Stowe: the next meeting. The next Cec. Meeting is July twelfth. Cory Lum: Okay, thank you.